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JJ:Naho,yamookuhchoiyissiyaamook,saamoosin,uhsaamoosin
JJlikethis alsouhpine needleslike thishow biguhhow big

JJ: When did y'all look for


wihhachitoska,noksofookon,uhalahkayaamik,nahouhchoiyissiyaamii,
y'all look forwhenuhotherslikeuhpine needles the

the pine needles?


uhOhaiyonwihhachitoskaainkokkasatkahchon,inkoknaksaamit
uhsummerdid y'all look for?orwhen it's coldorhowever

Did y'all look for pine needles in the summer or when it's cold, or it didn't


ittamathaikkotoskasaaminnaksaaminwihhachik
it didn't matterorhowy'all looked for

really matter when or how did y'all look...


MB:am--ammaamakaataafookakittap,choiyiihissiwiiliik,naho
MBmy--my motherliving thenpine needleslooklike

MB: Back then when my mom went looking for pine needles, she'd go around


ilanaawihkoothaafookan,wiiliifookokaatinmathatla̱a̱hoossoolik,naho
hunting seasonlook forscared reallylike

hunting season and would be really scared of the hunters


iliinaawiiliiyaamiikittohayo̱yomaaliifookok,nahobihislamaaliskan,kantik
the huntersin the woodsaroundlikegunhave thembut

hunting in the woods since they had guns with them.


naho,uhmaafookaakittap,nahouhathoolityomaalihchokkoskat,
likeuhback thenlikeuhdrivethat don't go aroun

Back then, nobody drove around. If they wanted something, the only way they got around


chayaalityomaaliibaanoknaasonbannaakwiilitnahohchooliskan,nahohchoolik,
walkgo around onlywhatwantlookusually doesused to do

was walking.


chayaalitathiiyatik,bihi̱yomaalit,slomaalinnahoop,aatinmathatlihchoolikkatik
walkhe/she goingguncarry themcarry themhappenswas scared of thembut

She would walk but was scared of the hunters.


ohaiyifookanhowiilihchootoskapyauhhimaayaamiphimaakbokoplit
summer timeused to lookthisuhnowadaysjustsprouted

They used to look for pine needles in the summer, but now they look for them when they're just


aththatok,ottinnahootanookaafookan,hobaskitanookaafookan,maafookan
beginsusually starts to beginlongdoneand then

starting to ripen or sprout, just about when they're just getting longer.


howiilik,ipthomaatilbaothafiinamahchan,nahokasatkathimaak
look forsquirrelhunting seasongetting therelikeis coldjust

Also, around squirrel season and then around when the cold weather is


athiiyafookanmonmaanhowiilihchonmihchokyokchoiyissikhoktitanookok
beginningthatagainusually look forthispine needlematureget

beginning to start. That's when the pine needles are starting to mature and


nahothobaskitanookokimmaayap,immaayapokilfaihiskan,maafookan
likelonggetfrom now onfrom now ondon't growand then

they get longer. From then on, they'll stop growing. That's when


howiilihchoolik,kaamiskosnapkamiichilkahchokmaafookon,mokkoopkasatkaap,
look forsowewe dothat timebecausewhen it's cold

they look for them. So we do it around that time because when it gets cold and when


oibaatnahoopchoiyissiplabahkaapmahhaasinsolotkalahokkoskan
rainhappenspine needleswet isfortunately won'tdry fast enough

it rains, the pine needles will get wet and won't dry fast.


JJ:asaalamook,naho,achoochiikya,chobasaamoosin
JJbasket thelikeyou sewthisbigabout

JJ: What is the biggest basket you've ever sewn?


achoochiimahchoto̱,hochobasaamoosin,saamitmookmeasure-hiskahchommi̱,
you've sewn beforehow bigabouthowthatyou measure

How do you measure the basket?


ompiinootnahotiskahchommi̱,nampo̱sa̱a̱itathchiiyakbikkohaalon
measureyou dohow muchhowyou gobeforehand

Do you measure it as you sew to see how big you want it?


MB:Ai,naho̱,anok,anapnaholiip,anoamonpiinoofookakittaap,
MByeslikeImewhen I doIwhen she showed me back

MB: Yes, when she showed me how to measure the basket, we had to


asaalasi̱yamiichitpahtahchitanoshooliifookaon,nota̱yaottichooobittoyaamin
the basetlike thisflattenedI finish itunderthislike the lower end

flatten the bottom ad put the ruler at the end of the bottom like this


nahouhstonpiinosi̱paapithkafookok,ompinoknota̱pat-haak
likeuhthe rulerput on topmeasure itunderflat

and measure it. After measuring the bottom she'd say, "The bottom is this big."


naksaamooskaahahchoolikyaami̱,kaamikstaththaak,yaamittonohkit
this is how bigused to saylike thisthengo onlike thisround

She'd keep on sewing, making the basket round and round. Let me use


nahofookon,yonimissilokommila̱a̱,nahoompinosi̱yamiichit
usually dothisget it fromI willlikethe rulerlike this

her ruler. Put the ruler on top of the basket like this


paabalaaliikokyahokkiitannahoofookok,yonnahok,yaaminompiinohchoolik
lay it thereherein the middledo it like thatthislikelike thisshe measured

and measure it. That's how she used to do it.


kaamin,yamiichitpaabalaaliifookokyokhokkiitakkaanonnahoofok,
like thatlike thislay it downthisright in the middledo it

She'd lay it down like this, right in the middle and say, "This is


yamiichiifookok,yamiichitnaho,akkaamkahahchoolik,kaamiknota̱
do it like thisdo somethinglikelike thatused to saythenunder

how big it is."


yaamiiompinok,yamiichitpaabalaaliifookok,yanota̱,akkamossomnota̱
like somethingmeasure itlike thislay it downthisunderjust so muchunder

Then she'd do the same thing on the bottom of the basket and say, "This is how big this is."


kahahchoolik,ompinokompiinoofookok,kamiichitnahohchoolik,kaamiik
she used to saymeasured itafter measuring itdid like thatused to dothen

That's how she used to do it.


maannahoasaalasikpiilalamatkityaamitchaihahchokommiipyamiichitnaho
againlikebasket themerelystraightlike thistall islike thislike

Then if the baset is tall, she'd take the ruler


stonpinosi̱hachaalichiifookokchaihaknaksaamoosinnahok,monkamiichit
rulerstand ittallabout howlikethatdid that

and put it against it and see how tall it is. That's how she used to


ompiinohchoolik,kamiichiliikanahchokanok.
measure didI do it like thatI

measure it. That's how I still do it.


Maamin
and then

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